Leandro dos Reis Lucchesi

celebrado E aí... vamos publicar o plano de trabalho e tudo mais. Acredito que alguma coisa nesse mesmo ano de 2026 já teremos. Agora, eu acho, e aí não sei a visão de todos aqui, a gente tem que encerrar a audiência também, mas...

Deputada Numaque, eu pedi desculpa, não há um preço. A SPA, na verdade, não endossa nenhum desses... desses indicadores, nem de 51 nem de 70. Eu simplesmente estou dizendo que existem essas informações no mercado, alguma consultoria que foi publicada e que a gente teve conhecimento. O que a SPA está fazendo? Está fazendo um acordo de cooperação técnica com a IPEA. para ter esse indicador, dentre outros. Na verdade, 50%, 70%, a gente sabe que Obrigado. Qualquer 1% aí são... 300 milhões de reais. Mas, então, 50, 70 é um... É isso da sua perspectiva. Isso. Então, qualquer indicador seria... um mercado legal tão grande tanto um contra o outro. E a SPA está usando todos os instrumentos que tem à disposição para combater o mercado ilegal. Passado esse ano, a gente começou a... Vamos atrás dos dados, de ter o indicador. É isso. O que é que é que é raciça? Obrigado. Quando o IPEA terá esses dados? Isso é muito importante.

almeja 100% de canalização. Acho que todo regulador no mundo inteiro espera que o mercado... seja totalmente E... de acordo com as regras. Mas, mesmo em jurisdições mais avançadas, que já atuam com isso há bastante tempo, Estamos lá nos 90, 90 e pouco. e o Brasil ter saído de de 2024 para 2025. e poder ter chegado a 70%, como se... se defende, com essa consultoria... O dia em que eu fiquei sabendo disso, fiquei muito feliz. E olha que eu nem tinha entrado na secretaria ainda. Eu acabei de entrar e recebi essa notícia. Já estou feliz por vocês. Foi um motivo de muita alegria. É... Esses números são um número meio que Dispulta. É... Sim. inclusive Um aspecto da regulação é esse, ter esse equilíbrio para que, eventualmente, a gente não... Obrigado. perca eventualmente esse... esses 70%, esses 60% que a gente já conseguiu. Bom. na minha visão.

que a gente recebeu agora com muito bom grado da lei complementar e do PL. da antifacção, marco legal de combate ao crime organizado, que acho que está sendo sancionado agora. a parte que nos toca seja sancionada, que prevê Já li algumas alguns pontos que dão uma margem maior de de atuação. E a gente... requer um pouco mais desse mandato legislativo para a SPA poder regular mais diretamente o fornecedor, nesse sentido. Por hora, a gente está fazendo uma regulação indireta. Muito obrigado, então, Sr. Leandro.

Thank you. Hello. - I'm gonna take you. Thank you. before the doctor. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Hello, good afternoon. What concern? Good afternoon, I thank the invitation to the deputado Dr. Julio López I thank you very much. My colleague, here, Barbara. The SPA thank you for the invitation to protect the consumer and protection. In fact, it's our rice with cheese. In the secretariat, something is, Relacionado a outra, a gente combate a pirataria para proteger o consumidor. inclusive. - My presentation is... Today the estimating of legal market is It's still a number in dispute, because it's not trivial you know the size of the market. but the estimates that are already placed, which we have already had knowledge, They would be 50% as pessimists, the most optimistic, for example, when it was presented event H2 Gambling in 70%. or see you. We can have canalized to the Brazilian legal market 70% the consumer and service. I believe that it is Um... I've been doing a lot of work. There's a estimative ...de... from H2 Gambling, which is very respected. Listen to you, do you want? Until 70%. which would be a lot of commemorative. - Well, I think... Let me tell you. Thank you. . The SPA has four sides that combated the illegal market. The first one of them started before the to be regulated or to be in function, which is the derrubation of sites, of offers, of cost fixed costs. So, as it was always divulged, these numbers We are approximately 30 million sites that were blocked by Anatel, including with these partnerships, the virtual laborator, with a NJL and a SPA. Yeah. Another front is related to the payment transactions. related to the Pix and so on, I can't get it. Missy Ekina Naga. Please. Thank you. I think the number is not there, I would not be able to answer. Salve engano... I think about 500 companies identified by the payment system. and reportages from SPA ended up being in the end. uh, And third, the issue of publicity. The blockage, the derrubation of content publicitário, - Thank you. of not authorized operators. Thank you. Also, the SPA has a partnership with CONAR and the digital council. And... and also our own research methods, which basically makes a raspage of the Internet and identify these publications not authorized and robbing. Eh... All the Frentes have now gained a reforcio, both by the Complementary 224, that establish a tax credit union union, both of the public public operators not authorized, as well as the financial institutions. which gives a course to transactions to not-author operators. Finally, as Pietro mentioned, the fourth front of legal combat is the regulation of what we call B2B. We basically will Eh. to determine a specific group providers of services, those more critical to the market, to the industry, We are proposing a regulation that is in public consultations, which just ended up on the last one. We received a lot of contributions. But we are proposing that the providers of systems providers of platforms, of online games, of identification, of data, of data, And Sportsbook They - I think it's a good question. in the end of the day, they will only operate in Brazil to offer services to the today's authority of the market. completely abriendo mão of the offer to the market not authorized. So we believe that these four with the implementation of this other issue of legal combats, and eventually this number of channelizations and can go a little more And, in the end, we can... because of this, protect the consumer that is in the regulated market. Well, about the combat of the legal market, about the protection of the consumer, Eh... We First thing, today, She commented on the other day that the betting sector. maybe one of those who have to do less alterations in relation to the entry in vigor of ECA Digital. Because there are already rules specific of the apostas that already take into account, in large part, of this issue of the protection of the children and the adolescent. Eh... something that evidently exists in the illegal market. And, as we have observed, in some tentative Thank you. I'm going to say it, to burlar the services of the tax tax, for example, the market of prevision. We saw that in Argentina, for example, the polymarket was destroyed, not because, eventually, the Argentine regulator said that he was using a service that he needed to be authorized, but because they don't have aferição of age. I think it's a very good question. - Thank you. So No nosso... in our regular market. There is no such problem. The game itself is a more... The technical market is in the regulatory market. The game is in the piratation. No game is in the game. No one knows what the technology is, how the algorithm works. eventually, a pirataria strict sense, in the sense of contra-facção of a certain brand. that is being explored in the legal market. and the consumer eventually thinks that the brand is the same. It's the same kind of game that is being explored in the market, but in the fact, The algorithm behind it is another thing. Bon. I think that was it. Sobre B2B. I'm going to take advantage of the opportunity to be here at the Congress. The law 14.790. It brings a lot of clarity in relation to publicity and in relation to the payment. In relation to providers, Eh... We would like to have a good support, a little more expresso. so that we can to regulate the provider, even in order to require a tax. like it is done with a tax operator. This is not It doesn't exist in our legislation. We're talking about the sector of apostas. We live in migalhas. We're like João and Maria, we're going to try to build a regulation. Well, this is our